Saturday, June 14, 2008

An Open Letter to Democrats in Congress

An Open Letter to Democrats in Congress:

As our representatives, you have sworn an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States. You have also been elected for no other reason than to represent the will of your constituents. Several days ago, thirty-five articles of Impeachment were presented against President George W. Bush, and while a few of those articles were clearly not impeachable offenses, the vast majority of those articles were substantive, and should be pursued for the sake of maintaining any semblance of freedom and representative democracy in the United States of America.

As the people of the United States, we compel you to press forward with impeachment proceedings and to cease being so wholly consumed with your own political careers that your actions are to the detriment of the United States as a free and just people. We also make it clear to you, our Democrats in Congress, that your inaction in this matter is itself both unconstitutional and illegal inasmuch as you are aiding and abetting high crimes and misdemeanors that have been committed in plain view and with reckless abandon.

When over one-third of a country's population insist upon impeachment, sending this matter to a committee wherein it will exist in limbo for eternity is clearly an obstructive course of action and completely misrepresents the will of the people. If you, the Democrats in Congress, insist upon this course, know that you will have directly contributed to the further disintegration of both constitutional government and representative democracy, and know that the American people will make their disapproval known in future elections.

The American People will not stand for this. We will not urge you to change your minds on this matter, instead we demand that you perform your duties as our representatives and as constitutional officers by moving forward with impeachment proceedings against both George W. Bush, President of the United States, and Richard B. Cheney, Vice President of the United States.

Sincerely,
The Voting Citizens of the United States of America

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9 Comments:

At August 13, 2008 5:38 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dude, I hate to tell you this, but "one third of the country" is a minority.

 
At August 13, 2008 9:05 PM , Blogger Tom said...

Ok, "Anonymous," you obviously don't know how this works, so let me tell you. An Impeachment does not imply a conviction, it simply means that there's enough evidence to make the case for impeachment proceedings, after which the offender will be tried, and if enough credible evidence is presented to substantiate the claims, be convicted.

You don't need a majority of the people to warrant impeachment proceedings, you just need a majority of the house to agree that there are grounds to do so. Thereafter, you need two-thirds majority for an actual conviction. 30% of people saying that they want to do this is more than enough justification to proceed.

There certainly wasn't a majority of people wanting Clinton impeached... I doubt the percentage in his case was even in the double digits for that, and his offenses were insignificant in comparison.

So, please... Go back to civics class and then respond having actually learned something.

 
At August 18, 2008 9:59 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

"30% of the people saying they want this" is about 36 to 45% shy of a percentage needed to make a congressman want to circumvent the electoral process.

Just because Mr Clinton got impeached, it doesn't mean we need to impeach every unpopular president.

And perjury is quite a serious offense. Being able to demand the truth from a witness is the foundation of the judicial system.

 
At August 18, 2008 10:12 AM , Blogger Tom said...

Oh, no, you're absolutely right. Perjury in relation to questions that had absolutely nothing to do with the alleged crimes in question is so much worse than 30-35 impeachable offenses relating to taking the country to war without justification, torture, and the innumerable amount of life lost as a result, and for absolutely no reason. Last time I checked, congress owned the right to declare war, not a neocon puppet of a president.

But you never addressed the point I made. What percentage of the populace actually *wanted* Clinton impeached? Was it the 66% that you feel is necessary for congress to proceed on such matters? No, in fact, it was in the single digits, and the only reason that it happened is because Republicans controlled congress at the time, and they had a hard-on for the Clinton administration.

They must have been pissed off that he actually got spending under control when the Republicans are the ones who are supposed to be 'fiscally conservative.' Of course, you'd never know that after watching the Bush administration over the past seven years.

 
At August 18, 2008 11:18 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Facts and data:

http://www.democrats.com/clinton-impeachment-polls

According to the top paragraph of the article, the average support for hearings was 36%.

In your book, "more than 30% of the country" is enough to begin hearings.

 
At August 18, 2008 11:28 AM , Blogger Tom said...

Thanks for doing the research for me. You've proven my point. Congress *does not* need a majority for proceeding with impeachment hearings.

 
At August 18, 2008 12:19 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

A politically based impeachment is a waste of time.

The Clinton (and Johnson) impeachment proved that. Luckily the current congressional leadership seems to have learned that lesson.

 
At August 18, 2008 8:31 PM , Blogger Tom said...

Yes, being made to answer as to why you lied about getting a blow job, especially where it relates to a case originally concerned with investigating a failed land deal years earlier is certainly politically motivated.

On the other hand, when it comes to answering for nearly 100,000 documented civilian deaths predicated on absolutely no real intelligence or justification, I don't think I'd call it a 'politically based impeachment.' I'd call it seeking justice.

And if you believe the two are the same or even remotely similar, then you are a sad human being.

 
At August 19, 2008 3:40 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Obtaining justice is not the job of congress. That is the judicial branch's job. It's hard to imagine a scenario where impeachment proceedings would not be politically motivated.

The President was re-elected by the people in 2004. He will be gone in early 2009. There is no reason to impeach (and remove from office) a lame duck during an election year.

If he committed a crime, justice will be served through the judicial branch, according to the laws of the country.

 

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